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]]> By: Dan North http://dannorth.net/2006/05/how-simple-is-too-simple/comment-page-1#comment-27 Dan North Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:06:03 +0000 http://dannorth.net/archives/22#comment-27 That's an interesting observation. Before I got into mocking using jmock, I was also very wary of interfaces everywhere. Especially the dreaded Impl antipattern - the 1-1 mapping of CheeseService to CheeseServiceImpl. I've found that using TDD with mocks helps me "discover" services and dependencies that I mock using interfaces, so that I can defer worrying about the implementations until later. Tim Mackinnon - one of the originators of mock objects - describes these interfaces as "flex points". The interfaces that come out of mock-based TDD seem to appear just where I need multiple implementations down the line. Still not sure how, but I trust the mocking pixies and it seems to work. That’s an interesting observation. Before I got into mocking using jmock, I was also very wary of interfaces everywhere. Especially the dreaded Impl antipattern – the 1-1 mapping of CheeseService to CheeseServiceImpl. I’ve found that using TDD with mocks helps me “discover” services and dependencies that I mock using interfaces, so that I can defer worrying about the implementations until later. Tim Mackinnon – one of the originators of mock objects – describes these interfaces as “flex points”. The interfaces that come out of mock-based TDD seem to appear just where I need multiple implementations down the line. Still not sure how, but I trust the mocking pixies and it seems to work.

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]]> By: Simon Baker http://dannorth.net/2006/05/how-simple-is-too-simple/comment-page-1#comment-25 Simon Baker Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:42:46 +0000 http://dannorth.net/archives/22#comment-25 Hi Dan, Thanks for writing this interesting and thought provoking article. To hopefully put a face to a name, we met at ACCU this year. Syd introduced us. I previously worked with Syd before he joined Thoughtworks. I was at ACCU with Mauro Talevi and sat with him and joe Walnes in the Gumption Traps session. Simon Baker. Hi Dan,

Thanks for writing this interesting and thought provoking article. To hopefully put a face to a name, we met at ACCU this year. Syd introduced us. I previously worked with Syd before he joined Thoughtworks. I was at ACCU with Mauro Talevi and sat with him and joe Walnes in the Gumption Traps session.

Simon Baker.

]]> By: Bruce Eckel http://dannorth.net/2006/05/how-simple-is-too-simple/comment-page-1#comment-24 Bruce Eckel Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:40:21 +0000 http://dannorth.net/archives/22#comment-24 "It does not discard using interfaces (almost) everywhere (*)" Using interfaces everywhere is exactly the kind of "maybe we'll need this" thinking that DTSTTCPW is intended to eliminate. “It does not discard using interfaces (almost) everywhere (*)”
Using interfaces everywhere is exactly the kind of “maybe we’ll need this” thinking that DTSTTCPW is intended to eliminate.

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