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	<title>Comments on: Learning to learn</title>
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	<description>It's all behaviour</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dan North</title>
		<link>http://dannorth.net/2006/06/learning-to-learn#comment-17304</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan North</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that Katie - so it seems it isn't just the conventional schools that can leave you with a negative impression of learning. I haven't had any dealings with any of the Steiner, Montessori or Waldorf styles of school, and to be honest I did have the impression that "the grass is greener".

I'm glad you managed to see past that experience to still be interested in learning - or was that one of the reasons you chose to find out what really works?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that Katie &#8211; so it seems it isn&#8217;t just the conventional schools that can leave you with a negative impression of learning. I haven&#8217;t had any dealings with any of the Steiner, Montessori or Waldorf styles of school, and to be honest I did have the impression that &#8220;the grass is greener&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you managed to see past that experience to still be interested in learning &#8211; or was that one of the reasons you chose to find out what really works?</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://dannorth.net/2006/06/learning-to-learn#comment-16741</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to a Steiner school, and it drove me nuts. They don't teach you how to learn, they tell you that they teach you how to learn. They teach you to hug trees and dye yarn and make you stay in the same class as everyone else your age because you were reincarnated at the same time. I was a problem child at the Steiner school because I taught myself things before they thought I was ready to learn them. I hated crafts, can't knit to save my life, and none of their exploring taught us to explore the real world. They seemed afraid of the real world - science doesn't seem to be spiritual enough.

Many, many of the kids who didn't teach themselves stuff just swallowed the fluff and were completely lost when the real world hit them and they had to actually learn about the real world and adapt to it.

I love learning about learning - Edward de Bono, memory palaces, agile practices... I am a sucker for books that teach me how to think differently about things - I just didn't get any of it from the Steiner school.

I'll be quiet and go back to my programming now. 
Sorry about the detour. I don't want to start a religious discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to a Steiner school, and it drove me nuts. They don&#8217;t teach you how to learn, they tell you that they teach you how to learn. They teach you to hug trees and dye yarn and make you stay in the same class as everyone else your age because you were reincarnated at the same time. I was a problem child at the Steiner school because I taught myself things before they thought I was ready to learn them. I hated crafts, can&#8217;t knit to save my life, and none of their exploring taught us to explore the real world. They seemed afraid of the real world &#8211; science doesn&#8217;t seem to be spiritual enough.</p>
<p>Many, many of the kids who didn&#8217;t teach themselves stuff just swallowed the fluff and were completely lost when the real world hit them and they had to actually learn about the real world and adapt to it.</p>
<p>I love learning about learning &#8211; Edward de Bono, memory palaces, agile practices&#8230; I am a sucker for books that teach me how to think differently about things &#8211; I just didn&#8217;t get any of it from the Steiner school.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be quiet and go back to my programming now. <br />
Sorry about the detour. I don&#8217;t want to start a religious discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan North</title>
		<link>http://dannorth.net/2006/06/learning-to-learn#comment-13166</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan North</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 10:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Thomas.

It looks like Jeremy has changed his blog slightly. I've updated the reference so it should work ok now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Thomas.</p>
<p>It looks like Jeremy has changed his blog slightly. I&#8217;ve updated the reference so it should work ok now.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Garrod</title>
		<link>http://dannorth.net/2006/06/learning-to-learn#comment-13125</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Garrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 03:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whooops! I did not realize this post was so old. No wonder the link does not reflect that interesting article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whooops! I did not realize this post was so old. No wonder the link does not reflect that interesting article.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Garrod</title>
		<link>http://dannorth.net/2006/06/learning-to-learn#comment-13124</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Garrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 03:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was interested in the "excellent article" by Jeramy, but the link does not lead to an excellent article.  On the other hand, I was very happy to see your comment about teaching children to learn. I'll be attempting something very like that soon.  I've been dreaming of creating a program for underachievers, and I'll do that, or try this summer. Thanks for the thoughtful comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was interested in the &#8220;excellent article&#8221; by Jeramy, but the link does not lead to an excellent article.  On the other hand, I was very happy to see your comment about teaching children to learn. I&#8217;ll be attempting something very like that soon.  I&#8217;ve been dreaming of creating a program for underachievers, and I&#8217;ll do that, or try this summer. Thanks for the thoughtful comments!</p>
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