Comments on: Empty rooms http://dannorth.net/2007/10/empty-rooms It's all behaviour Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:08:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Colin Jack http://dannorth.net/2007/10/empty-rooms#comment-9493 Colin Jack Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:07:25 +0000 http://dannorth.net/2007/10/empty-rooms#comment-9493 My view is BDD is interesting but the documentation out there is often contradictory and doesn't necessarily answer my questions. In particular as someone learning about BDD I'd have found it useful if someone had documented the relationship between BDD and the following: 1) Need-driven Development or even just outside-in design. 2) Ubiquitous language. 3) User stories. 4) Different levels of testing (so for example is using plain old TDD when you get to implementation levels valid). I did a brain dump of some of my initial confusion, mainly so that I can refer to it when trying to remember where to go for material on BDD (http://colinjack.blogspot.com/2008/02/bdd-what-still-confuses-me.html). My view is BDD is interesting but the documentation out there is often contradictory and doesn’t necessarily answer my questions. In particular as someone learning about BDD I’d have found it useful if someone had documented the relationship between BDD and the following:

1) Need-driven Development or even just outside-in design.
2) Ubiquitous language.
3) User stories.
4) Different levels of testing (so for example is using plain old TDD when you get to implementation levels valid).

I did a brain dump of some of my initial confusion, mainly so that I can refer to it when trying to remember where to go for material on BDD (http://colinjack.blogspot.com/2008/02/bdd-what-still-confuses-me.html).

]]> By: Jean-Michel http://dannorth.net/2007/10/empty-rooms#comment-6811 Jean-Michel Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:09:03 +0000 http://dannorth.net/2007/10/empty-rooms#comment-6811 Monsieur Dan, votre flux RSS ne semble pas marcher avec Netvibes ... Cela fait 1 mois maintenant, tu as une idée? Monsieur Dan, votre flux RSS ne semble pas marcher avec Netvibes … Cela fait 1 mois maintenant, tu as une idée?

]]> By: Wesley Walraeve http://dannorth.net/2007/10/empty-rooms#comment-6235 Wesley Walraeve Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:29:41 +0000 http://dannorth.net/2007/10/empty-rooms#comment-6235 Ah no, another 3 letter IT-term: "BDD"... Business Driven Development, an evaluation of TDD. I think it comes from the Java world, from JBehave... Ah no, another 3 letter IT-term: “BDD”...

Business Driven Development, an evaluation of TDD. I think it comes from the Java world, from JBehave…

]]> By: Wesley http://dannorth.net/2007/10/empty-rooms#comment-6234 Wesley Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:16:45 +0000 http://dannorth.net/2007/10/empty-rooms#comment-6234 Maybe it's because a lot of people are not using or understanding TDD yet. And who is always interested in evolutions. And maybe a more important question these days "What does it cost? Or how much extra income $$$$ does it bring?". Will I have a better revenue by doing BDD instead of TDD? Is the customer willing to pay for longer development? Is the developer willing to learn a new DD while there's already a lot of new stuff? Is this comming from a big community or is it a one man show? Maybe it’s because a lot of people are not using or understanding TDD yet. And who is always interested in evolutions.
And maybe a more important question these days “What does it cost? Or how much extra income $$$$ does it bring?”. Will I have a better revenue by doing BDD instead of TDD?
Is the customer willing to pay for longer development? Is the developer willing to learn a new DD while there’s already a lot of new stuff? Is this comming from a big community or is it a one man show?

]]> By: Marcus Ahnve http://dannorth.net/2007/10/empty-rooms#comment-6176 Marcus Ahnve Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:50:41 +0000 http://dannorth.net/2007/10/empty-rooms#comment-6176 It is my impression that the old-school TDD and OO community is a little stagnant. THe fact that there is virtually no mentioning of RSpec et al on the TDD mailing list says a lot. It is my impression that the old-school TDD and OO community is a little stagnant. THe fact that there is virtually no mentioning of RSpec et al on the TDD mailing list says a lot.

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